Let's Learn Korean - Peer editing project

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안녕하세요, 정혜영입니다.

여럿이 함께 한국어 공부 할 수 있는 프로젝트를 생각하고 있는데요, 어떻게 생각하시는지 듣고 싶어요. 일종의 쓰기 프로젝트인데요, 당연히 한국어로 쓰는 것입니다. 이 프로젝트에 동참하실 분들이 필요해요. 다섯 명에서 열 명 정도가 가장 효과적이지 않을까 생각해요. 만약 더 많은 인원이 모이게 된다면 수준별로 여러 팀을 만들 수도 있겠지요. 글을 쓰는 곳은 바로 여기 한국어연습장 블로그를 이용할 수 있어요. 여기는 모두가 회원가입 가능하고, 글을 쓸 수 있는 권한을 받을 수 있거든요. 혹은, 만약 이미 블로그를 갖고 계시는 분이고, 자신의 블로그에 글을 쓰고 싶다면 그것도 괜찮아요. 주소를 알고 트랙백이나 링크로 서로 연결만 되면 되니까요.

저나 아니면 그룹에서 누구라도 이야기할 주제를 제시해요. 아니면, 다음에 무슨 주제에 대해서 이야기할지 같이 의논할 수도 있어요. 그리고 주어진 주제와 관련된 글을 하나씩 쓰고, 다른 사람들이 쓴 글을 읽고 코멘트를 해줘요. 코멘트는 수정, 제안같은 형식도 되고, 아니면 글쓴 내용과 관련된 것이면 무엇이든 괜찮아요. 동의, 반대, 격려 등 아무 내용이나 쓸 수 있어요. 그리고 정해진 기간의 끝에 다른 사람들이 해 준 말을 참고해서 첫번째 글을 고쳐 쓰는 거예요.일종의 동료수정이라고 할 수 있죠.

일주일 단위로 하는 걸 생각하고 있어요.
그래서 일주일에 글 하나씩 쓰고, 다른 사람글에 코멘트 달고, 자기의 첫번째 글을 고쳐쓰는 것까지에요. 그룹 구성원들은 모두 성실하고 끈기가 있어야해요. 이렇게 하는 것이 어떤 모습으로 돌아갈지, 또 얼마나 한국어 실력 향상에 도움이 될지 알아보고 싶어요. 너무 힘들면 기간을 길게 잡을 수도 있어요.

이상은 그냥 대충 제 머리 속에 있는 생각들이에요, 그래서 이와 관련하여 좋은 아이디어나 코멘트가 있으면 자유로이 말씀해 주세요.

English translation in the extended entry

Hi, this is Hyeyoung Jeong

I’m thinking of doing a group project and want to hear what you think about this idea. It’s a kind of writing project, of course writing in Korean. I need some volunteers for this. I think about 5 to 10 people would be effective for making this work. If there are more people who want to join, I guess we can divide into different levels. We can use this ‘Let’s learn Korean’ blog where everyone can register as a member or an author. Or if you already have your own blog and want to use that, it’s ok, as long as we can get connected to trackback or link, whatever.

I (or anyone from the group) gives a subject to talk about. or we can also work together to choose next topic. And we all write an article and check what others write and comment on others’ articles. The comments can be some correction or suggestion or just any comment about the content, showing agreement or disagreement, encouragement.... Then, at the end of one period, you write your second draft after you got some feedback from other members and me. It’s a kind of peer-editing.

It will be done on a weekly basis, so one article a week, plus comments on others’ articles and finally rewrite your first draft. Every member in the group needs to be very sincere and consistent. I want to see how this work and how people in the group feel about their progress. This is just my rough picture, so if you have any other ideas to improve this or any other comment,

황음치 speaking from here on

I think this project is a great idea and I will be participating as much as I can. Though with work and family commitments once a week may be difficult to do. If you wish to participate on this blog please register using the link at the top of the page and then post a message in the forums. This entry is also being reproduced in the forums. HOpe to see several people participating in this idea.

adding a poll - please vote

Posted by future-kteacher on Friday May 25, 2007 in This blog Peer Editing Project | Discuss in the forums |

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트랙백:

Peer Editing Project

I just started a peer editing project at 한국어연습장. Over here I want to keep track of how it’s going and maybe start another peer group. And I wanted to let more people know about this or benefit from this, so I’m copying some o...
Tracked on: Let's learn and practice Korean (212.147.136.7) at 2007 06 13 22:23:24

I am trying to delete the above post, but it’s not in the admin panel yet. I just give my well-being and wishes to this project and will participate only if we can get Koreans involved. I think a non-native speaker correcting another non-native speaker is not a good idea.

why doesn’t that show up in my admin panel?

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Posted by joesp on Friday May 25, 2007 at 08:41 PM
Because it’s not a post. It’s a comment. I haven’t yet enabled user editable comments - it’s a little complicated. I’ll delete your first comment now.

Actually Joesp, with at least one native speaker (future k-teacher) we’ll be fine. There is loads of research that shows language learners learn by peer editing. Additionally langauge learners will improve thier speaking skills more by communicating with other learners rather than a native speaker. The caveat is that the learners need to be at around the same level for the improvement to take place.

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호랑이 굴에들어가야 호랑이 새끼를 잡는다

Posted by 王音癡 on Friday May 25, 2007 at 09:19 PM
I’m interested, too.

I find writing a really good exercise but somehow writing just for myself seems a little pointless. I’ve never considered this way of correcting each other’s texts because I’ve always assumed that you’ll need a native speaker/teacher to do that.

I’d love to give it a try, though! It would definitely make me think more about grammar, sentence structure etc.

Thanks for the idea!

Posted by 이유란 on Friday May 25, 2007 at 10:14 PM
I’ve just registered and activate my account, too, but when I try to log in it says my username is not registered. Does that take some time or did I do some mistake?

Posted by 이유란 on Friday May 25, 2007 at 10:32 PM
Could you try one more time and if that doesn’t work email me your login info so I can try troubleshooting. I looked in the control panel and your account is showing as activated.

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호랑이 굴에들어가야 호랑이 새끼를 잡는다

Posted by 王音癡 on Friday May 25, 2007 at 10:35 PM
This is a great idea!!
Even though it takes me a long time to write just a few sentences, I would love to give it a try.

Posted by Yo on Saturday May 26, 2007 at 12:57 PM
저는 한국항공대학교 항공우주공학과 2학년에 재학중인 한규성이라고 합니다.
Korean as a Second Language in MSN Group 에서 보고 왔는데요. ^^ 이 project가 정말 흥미롭군요. 저도 참여해도 될까요?! 오직 서강대 한국어교육 관련 학과를 위한 것라면, 거절하셔도 괜찮습니다.

I’m a 2nd year university student in Aero-space Enginnering Dep. of Korea Aerospace Uni.
I knew this blog from Korean as a Second Language in MSN Groups. This project seems really interesting. May I participate in this project?
But if I bother you, It will be OK to say “No.”.

Posted by K.S. Han on Monday May 28, 2007 at 07:38 PM
K.S. Han,

환영 합니다. 한국사람 할수 있어요. I can’t think in Korean right now. Of course Koreans can join and you are welcome to participate.

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호랑이 굴에들어가야 호랑이 새끼를 잡는다

Posted by 王音癡 on Monday May 28, 2007 at 07:56 PM
반갑습니다. 한규성씨.
이 프로젝트는 서강대학교와는 아무 상관 없어요.
무엇때문에 서강대학교를 거론하셨는지 궁금하네요.

그냥 제가 개인적으로 한 번 해보고 싶어서 제안한것이랍니다.
도와주실 수 있는 한국사람이 있다면 대환영이랍니다.
그리고 지금은 아무것도 정해진 것이 없으므로
한규성님께서도 아이디어 제안해주세요.
그럼, 또 뵐게요.

Posted by future-kteacher on Monday May 28, 2007 at 09:43 PM
미안해요 - 너무 늦게 대답하고 있는데… 몇일 동안 컴퓨터가 없었기 때문이에요.
다시 log-in 해 봤지만 it keeps saying that the username is not registered. I’ve entered the username in 한글, maybe I should have used the Latin alphabet instead? Should I just try to register with another username? (I tried but it says that the e-mail address is not available...)
궁금하고 있는 이유란 드림

Posted by 이유란 on Wednesday May 30, 2007 at 06:33 PM
resolving this problem via email now.

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호랑이 굴에들어가야 호랑이 새끼를 잡는다

Posted by 王音癡 on Wednesday May 30, 2007 at 07:42 PM
문제를 발리 해결하셨이니까 정말 감사합니다!
앞으로 열심히 참여할게요!

Posted by 이유란 on Thursday May 31, 2007 at 11:56 AM
문제를 발리빨리 해결하셨이니까해결해주셔서 정말 감사합니다!
앞으로 열심히 참여할게께요!

Posted by K.S. Han on Thursday May 31, 2007 at 08:24 PM
K.S. Han님,
‘참여할게요’가 맞습니다.
발음은 [께요]가 맞지만 적을 때는’게요’가 맞습니다.
사전에서 찾아보시려면 ‘ㄹ게요’가 기본형입니다.
저도 많이 실수했던 부분이에요.
유란’s original ‘참여할게요’ is right.
It’s pronounced as [께요] but when you write, ‘게요’ is right. The basic form for this in the dictionary is ‘ㄹ게요’
I used to be confused about this all the time.

프로젝트에 대해서,
다른 분들의 아이디어나 의견을 듣고 싶었는데
별다른 의견이 없으시네요.
그러면 일단 제가 처음에 제안한대로 우선 시작해보고
해 나가면서 어떻게 되어가는지 한 번 보도록 할까요?
다음 주까지 추가 지원자와 의견을 기다려보고
일주일 쯤 뒤부터 시작해볼까합니다.
어떻게 생각하세요?

I was hoping to hear some more ideas or suggestions on this but I don’t see any.
So, why don’t we just start it as I described and see what happens? Do you think we can play it by ear?
Let’s wait for more volunteers and ideas by next week, then let’s start it in a week or so.
What do you think?

Posted by future-kteacher on Friday Jun 1, 2007 at 04:55 AM
K.S.Han님 & future-kteacher님께,
thanks for the correction!
큰 도움이에요! (=Big help?!)

I’m happy about starting the peer editing project. So first we would need a topic to write about, right?
Hm, 생각할게요!

Posted by 이유란 on Friday Jun 1, 2007 at 11:54 AM
future-kteacher thanks for the correction, too!

Posted by K.S. Han on Friday Jun 1, 2007 at 10:38 PM
And I think so,future-kteacher. Let’s get started!

Posted by K.S. Han on Friday Jun 1, 2007 at 10:40 PM